Conjecture 009

A geometric product law for cyclotomic Iwasawa invariants

Conjecture
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Field
Iwasawa Theory
Domain
elliptic curves; Iwasawa invariants; signed p-adic L-functions; arithmetic statistics
Review
Unresolved
  • elliptic curves
  • Iwasawa invariants
  • signed p-adic L-functions
  • arithmetic statistics
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Summary

We propose a rank-conditioned distribution for ordinary and signed cyclotomic Iwasawa λ-invariants of elliptic curves over ℚ. After removing the zero forced by Mordell–Weil rank, the remaining half-difference is conjectured to be geometrically distributed, with asymptotic independence across primes and between the two signed invariants at a supersingular prime.

Abstract

We propose a rank-conditioned distribution for ordinary and signed cyclotomic Iwasawa λ\lambda-invariants of elliptic curves over Q\mathbb Q. After removing the zero forced by Mordell–Weil rank, the remaining half-difference is conjectured to be geometrically distributed, with asymptotic independence across primes and between the two signed invariants at a supersingular prime.

The conditioned family

Let SS be a finite set of primes p11p\geq11, let r1r\geq1, and prescribe for each pSp\in S either ordinary or supersingular reduction, denoted by a type function τ\tau. Let FS,r,τ(X)F_{S,r,\tau}(X) be the set of Q\mathbb Q-isogeny classes [E][E] of non-CM elliptic curves E/QE/\mathbb Q satisfying NEXN_E\leq X and rankE(Q)=r\mathop{\mathrm{rank}}E(\mathbb Q)=r, together with the following conditions at every pSp\in S:

  1. EE has good reduction at pp of the prescribed type;

  2. the residual representation on E[p]E[p] is surjective;

  3. pTam(E)p\nmid\mathop{\mathrm{Tam}}(E);

  4. the relevant analytic cyclotomic μ\mu-invariant vanishes;

  5. in the ordinary case, p#E(Fp)p\nmid\#E(\mathbb F_p).

Put

Iτ={(p,0):τ(p)=ord}{(p,+),(p,):τ(p)=ss}.I_\tau=\{(p,0):\tau(p)=\mathrm{ord}\} \cup\{(p,+),(p,-):\tau(p)=\mathrm{ss}\}.

For ordinary pp, define

Kp,0(E)=λp(E)r2,K_{p,0}(E)=\frac{\lambda_p(E)-r}{2},

and for supersingular pp, using the Pollack signed normalization, define

Kp,±(E)=λp±(E)r2.K_{p,\pm}(E)=\frac{\lambda_p^\pm(E)-r}{2}.

Conjecture 1. Assume that #FS,r,τ(X)\#F_{S,r,\tau}(X)\to\infty. Then, for every vector k=(kp,s)(p,s)IτZ0Iτ\mathbf k=(k_{p,s})_{(p,s)\in I_\tau}\in\mathbb Z_{\geq0}^{I_\tau},

limX#{[E]FS,r,τ(X):Kp,s(E)=kp,s for all (p,s)Iτ}#FS,r,τ(X)=(p,s)Iτ(1p1)pkp,s.\lim_{X\to\infty} \frac{\#\{[E]\in F_{S,r,\tau}(X):K_{p,s}(E)=k_{p,s} \text{ for all }(p,s)\in I_\tau\}} {\#F_{S,r,\tau}(X)} \mathrel{=} \prod_{(p,s)\in I_\tau}(1-p^{-1})p^{-k_{p,s}}.

In particular, all the coordinates are asymptotically independent, including the two signs at a single supersingular prime.

Numerical evidence

The available Iwasawa data cover conductor at most 149996149996. After passing to Q\mathbb Q-isogeny classes, the rank-one ordinary sample at p=11p=11 contained 204573204573 classes. The observed counts for K11,0=0,1,2K_{11,0}=0,1,2 and K11,03K_{11,0}\geq3 were

186137,16792,1427,217,186137,\qquad 16792,\qquad 1427,\qquad 217,

close to the geometric probabilities 10/1110/11, 10/12110/121, 10/133110/1331 and the remaining tail.

For p=13p=13 supersingular and rank 11, a sample of 2370723707 classes gave

(K13,+,K13,)(0,0)(1,0)(0,1)(1,1)count2024015161566127.\begin{array}{c|rrrr} (K_{13,+},K_{13,-})&(0,0)&(1,0)&(0,1)&(1,1)\\ \hline \text{count}&20240&1516&1566&127. \end{array}

These figures are close to the prediction from two independent geometric variables. Same-prime signed covariances were small, and the largest absolute observed covariance was approximately 0.002110.00211.

For the pair of primes 1111 and 1313 in rank 11, the observed probabilities that all relevant coordinates were minimal were

0.839467,0.778247,0.763577,0.7012060.839467,\quad0.778247,\quad0.763577,\quad0.701206

for the ordinary/ordinary, ordinary/supersingular, supersingular/ordinary and supersingular/supersingular strata. The corresponding product predictions were

0.839161,0.774610,0.762873,0.704191.0.839161,\quad0.774610,\quad0.762873,\quad0.704191.

The same comparison was performed for all 5555 pairs among the primes from 1111 through 4747 for which reliable data were available.

Random-coefficient heuristic

After extracting the rank-forced factor TrT^r from a self-dual pp-adic LL-function with μ=0\mu=0, functional-equation symmetry forces the remaining Weierstrass degree to have the same parity as rr. Write the symmetry-compatible coefficients as

a0,a1,a2,a_0,a_1,a_2,\ldots

in degrees r,r+2,r+4,r,r+2,r+4,\ldots. If their reductions modulo pp behaved as independent uniform elements of Fp\mathbb F_p, then

K=min{j:aj0}K=\min\{j:a_j\neq0\}

would satisfy

Pr(K=k)=(1p1)pk.\Pr(K=k)=(1-p^{-1})p^{-k}.

Independence of the coefficient systems would yield the product law in Conjecture 1. The local exclusions in the definition of the family remove deterministic contributions, but they do not prove this randomness.

Relation with known results

Ordinary and signed Iwasawa theory provide the parity constraints and the two supersingular invariants. Existing arithmetic-statistical results give bounds or positive-density statements for prescribed Iwasawa invariants, and recent work gives criteria for the minimal rank-one event μ=0\mu=0, λ=1\lambda=1. None of these results proves the full geometric tail, fixed-rank conductor-ordered limits, cross-prime independence, or independence of the two signed invariants at one supersingular prime.

The latter is particularly delicate: the two signed pp-adic LL-functions have different Coleman maps, but share the underlying Mordell–Weil lattice and may share factors arising from Tate–Shafarevich or fine Selmer groups.

Open difficulties

Even the subcase consisting of one ordinary prime, rank 11, and K=0K=0 would require proving a conductor-ordered density exactly equal to 1p11-p^{-1}. The full statement asks for simultaneous equidistribution of all symmetry-compatible coefficients, conditional on rank, residual surjectivity, vanishing μ\mu-invariant and the stated local restrictions. No theorem presently controls these correlations, either across different primes or between the two signed theories at one prime.

References

  • R. Greenberg, Iwasawa theory for elliptic curves, in Arithmetic Theory of Elliptic Curves, Lecture Notes in Math. 1716, Springer, 1999, 51–144.

  • S. Kobayashi, Iwasawa theory for elliptic curves at supersingular primes, Invent. Math. 152 (2003), 1–36.

  • R. Pollack, On the pp-adic LL-function of a modular form at a supersingular prime, Duke Math. J. 118 (2003), 523–558.

  • D. Kundu and A. Ray, Statistics for Iwasawa invariants of elliptic curves, Parts I–III, 2021–2024.

  • F. Nuccio Mortarino Majno di Capriglio and R. Sujatha, Residual supersingular Iwasawa theory and signed Iwasawa invariants, J. Number Theory 209 (2020), 224–249.

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