Conjecture 022
A Rank-Dependent Secondary Bias in the Sign of the Minimal Discriminant
ConjectureSummary
We study singleton non-CM isogeny classes of elliptic curves over Q with prime conductor. For each fixed rank 0 ≤ r ≤ 3, we conjecture a two-term asymptotic for the proportion having negative minimal discriminant. The leading constant is the classical $\sqrt3$ archimedean ratio, while the secondary constants exhibit a strict rank-dependent ordering suggested by the available data.
Abstract
We study singleton non-CM isogeny classes of elliptic curves over with prime conductor. For each fixed rank , we conjecture a two-term asymptotic for the proportion having negative minimal discriminant. The leading constant is the classical archimedean ratio, while the secondary constants exhibit a strict rank-dependent ordering suggested by the available data.
Statement of the conjecture
For and , let be the set of -isogeny classes such that
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the conductor is a prime ;
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the isogeny class contains a single -isomorphism class;
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is non-CM and .
The sign of the minimal discriminant is then unambiguous on the isogeny class. Let denote the subset for which .
Conjecture 1. Assume that for each . There exist real constants such that
and these constants satisfy
The main term is the archimedean mass predicted by the Brumer–McGuinness and Watkins model. The conjecture asserts that conditioning on exact Mordell–Weil rank introduces a stable secondary correction of order .
Numerical evidence
At , the observed proportions and rescaled deviations are as follows.
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Rank-conditioned discriminant-sign statistics at .
Here . Between and , the four rescaled quantities remain near , , , and , respectively. The inspected sample contains prime-conductor representatives, with no missing discriminant signs and with algebraic rank agreeing with analytic rank throughout.
Relation to known counting results
Brumer and McGuinness first observed the overall negative-to-positive ratio near in prime-conductor data, and Watkins rederived the corresponding sign-dependent volume heuristic. Shankar–Shankar–Wang prove, for certain large conductor-ordered families defined by local conditions, sign-separated leading asymptotics whose constants satisfy . Their theorem does not cover the thin requirement that the conductor be prime, nor does it condition on exact rank or give a secondary term.
By modularity and the Mestre–Oesterlé prime-conductor theorem, a prime-conductor isogeny class contains a curve with prime absolute minimal discriminant. In the singleton case this is the unique curve, so the conjecture can equivalently be viewed as a statement about exact-rank prime-discriminant curves. This reduction does not provide the required distribution.
The unresolved analytic problem
Let and be the positive- and negative-discriminant counts. Proving Conjecture 1 requires a rank- and sign-separated two-term asymptotic for these counts, strong enough to identify both the main ratio and the limits
The passage to prime conductor already involves a thin global sieve. Exact-rank conditioning further introduces global quantities such as central -values, Selmer groups, regulators, and Tate–Shafarevich groups. Present lattice-counting and average-Selmer methods do not control these conditions simultaneously, and no existing theorem gives even the required leading exact-rank asymptotics in this family. The numerical pattern is therefore evidence rather than a proof.
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